justageekhere
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Dave, why did you buy those? Are you a coin collector? Can't think of any other reason a person would want any of those. Regards, Julie
Excellent (old) article here:
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/kirby062806.html
A few choice excerpts:
THE AMERO vs. THE DOLLAR
...Predictably, certain individuals are alarmed by the prospect of replacing the Dollar with another currency called the Amero...
...Whether or not there is any truth that some individuals or groups would like to economically or politically unify Canada, Mexico, and the United States, the peripheral alarm regarding the replacement of the Dollar with a currency named the "Amero" is worth exploring.
The first thing that jumps out at me is the expression, "Our currency...." That is an interesting choice of words. This phrase implies that the currency of the Federal Reserve System is ours, yet, somehow the Amero currency of the North American Union would not be ours and therefore be objectionable.
The second thing that jumps out at me is the expression, "...will be replaced...;" My choice of words would have been, "has been replaced."...
...By law, the SUBSTANCE of OUR money was gold and silver bullion, and the LAWS of money in the United States made gold and silver coin LAWFUL MONEY.
Where do you find such specimens of money today? In coin shops and personal collections.
What we had then (gold, silver coin) was replaced with what is today in your pocket and your bank account. Today, we use THEIR money. You cannot tell me that Federal Reserve Notes are our money. The Constitution does not contemplate them. The First Money Act of April 2, 1792 does not contemplate them. The code of the United States for most of our history does not contemplate them. It is not our money. It doesn't matter that it has been around since granddad was a young man. Crime has been around for a long time too. The long lived perpetration of a wrong does not lend it legitimacy. It is alien to the Constitution, and our money is effectively in exile. Their money resembles ours, more or less, if you need glasses or don't read; there are pictures of our dead Presidents on it. Many Americans simply believe it is our currency because that is the way it has been since their birth, and they don't know what they are looking at. Or they do and do not distinguish between real value and debt. We, including those of us who know better, begrudgingly use it mainly because our own government refuses to follow the Constitution on the money issue. And we must use something so we use this. Our government has long since bought into central banking with debt-based irredeemable paper. If you want to read why, look up Alan Greenspan's essay, "Gold and Economic Freedom," which gives as good an explanation as any: it is the easiest way to set up and maintain a socialist welfare state.
There is no SUBSTANCE associated with their money. It may read X Dollars on the face, but dollars of what? Above you saw a dollar of gold and a dollar of silver. Above you saw gold and silver certificates that promised on demand to pay a dollar of silver or ten dollars of gold. A Dollar was a unit of value that related precious metal to a weight measured in grains....
...But a Federal Reserve Note is not that which was just described; it doesn't even come close. It is not a dollar. It is not any number of dollars. It is a mere slip of paper signifying nothing more than a way by which to discharge your tax liabilities, with the right to spend your surplus slips of paper on other things as if they were lawful money of gold and silver. So the One Dollar Federal Reserve Note, for example, is not one dollar, but claims to be on its face. Is that a lie? In my world it is. ...
...The Federal Reserve Note, which is their money is not even a promise to pay. It makes no promise at all. Read any bill, you will not find any promise. What is in your pocket or your bank account is debt. As a nation, we have borrowed our own tax coupons and in commerce we accept and use them as if they were money. You do not own your currency free and clear. Borrowed first by the national government, it automatically arrives to the American people with interest due. It is a fiduciary asset which is absolutely simultaneously someone else's interest-bearing liability. It bears interest for the benefit of its issuer and creator, the central banks and their stockholders, the instant it goes into circulation. The central bank, which supplanted the existing system---which was unique and American---was modeled after the Bank of England. "The Creature From Jekyll Island," by E. G. Griffin, explains how that happened....
...It is difficult to imagine the level of intrigue that must have gone on as they, the early central bankers, the financiers to the world, persuaded our government to incrementally dismantle the Constitutional monetary system that was working as it should have, and replace it with a system entirely based on debt.
What we have today (their money) is exactly what the Amero would be except it would have different printing on the paper and it would be intended to circulate among three nations, or substates, whereas the paper of the Federal Reserve System is more or less designed for the United States. The printing, "The United States of America," the portraits of the dead presidents, at worst makes Mexicans and Canadians who handle US Dollars feel they are handling another nation's or central bank's currency, and they are. Yet, changing the name to the "Amero" and putting other faces than our dead presidents or, emulating the Euro, no face at all on the bills would only allow our neighbors to believe the currency is of their nation, or Union if that is what is coming. Nothing will have changed in the nature of the money. It will still signify a debt to the central bank monopoly. And, should such a Union succeed, you might imagine that it would be even harder to repair the damage done and return to a Constitutional money system, if such a thing were not already impossible.
In the final analysis, no one should be worried about our money being replaced with the Amero, because (A) the coin money of the Constitution as already been replaced and we have been using their irredeemable debt-based money for a long, long time. We are using exactly the money that the bankers, not the founding fathers, would have us use. The move from the above shown coin money of the Constitution, to that of the Federal Reserve System was unimaginably VAST in terms of its legal, financial, and sovereignty implications. And (B) we are not really being threatened with a second replacement, but only a cosmetic alteration to make it psychologically acceptable to this so-called "Union."
To rephrase substantially the line in the National Register article that started all this inquiry: The plan to replace gold and silver coin with central bank debt was the necessary giant step closer to socialism's perverse dream of a one-world government. Socialism is not new. It goes back to the mid 1800's. They've had since their beginning, their agenda for the supremacy of the state and the limitation of individual property rights and individual liberties. A depreciated paper currency and State control of credit has always been part of their agenda. It is pointless to be alarmed about the Amero today with no way to go back to the gold and silver coin of the U.S. Constitution as the national money. It is as insignificant as changing the designs that appear on our copper quarters.
Jason Kirby
kirbyjason@hotmail.com
June 20, 2006
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