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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:24 am    Post subject: Al Gore sued by over 30,000 Scientists for Global Warming fr Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Environmentalists listened closely in the plush surrounds of Melbourne's Park Hyatt Hotel to a speech by Britain's Lord Christopher Monckton, who dismissed as ''bogus'' fears of global warming.

''Those who have been fostering what is essentially a baseless scientific scam have being trying to make the obvious sound absurd and the absurd sound obvious, and we are now going to turn the tables on them,'' Lord Monckton said.

http://www.theage.com.au/environment/climate-change/lord-of-climate-ch ange-sceptics-hot-under-collar-20091110-i7ks.html

With a rapid-fire computer slide-show as counterpoint to the famed warnings by former US vice-president Al Gore, Lord Monckton set out to an Institute of Public Affairs conference what he called a litany of lies by the United Nations on climate change. Most egregiously, Lord Monckton said, UN reports on climate change ignored evidence of global temperatures that were higher during medieval times than now.

He also rejected often-cited claims that 2500 scientific papers have backed the case for climate change, as well as the analysis of data that showed the problem was worsening.

''I'm calling these lies because that is what they are; they are deliberate attempts to mislead,'' he said.

Mr Rudd last week repeatedly called Lord Monckton, an adviser to former British Conservative prime minister Margaret Thatcher, a ''world government conspiracy theorist'', warning that unfounded and sceptical claims were hampering climate change negotiations.

''When Monckton speaks, prime ministers tremble,'' the British peer quipped yesterday during a video link-up from London.

Lord Monckton warned that the treaty proposed for climate talks in Copenhagen next month would create a new tyranny in world affairs.

''What I think will happen at Copenhagen is they won't agree on how much emissions for each country,'' he said.

''The bureaucrats will then sidle forward with their silky voices and their shiny shoes and their shiny pants, and they will say, 'Well, Prime Minister, you've come all this way, you need to go back with something. Why don't we all agree just to carry forward the institutional framework.

''And thus, by stealth - by bureaucratic coup d'etat - a world dictatorship, long the aim of those who set up the UN's climate panel, will have come into being.''


Lord Christopher Monckton Speaking in St. Paul
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the wake of Climategate...

Hide the decline
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk

COPENHAGEN Lord Monckton rap battles Al Gore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBzR0-j0O0o

Daily Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgPUpIBWGp8

Hitler and ClimateGatewith subtitl
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbaeoa_hitler-et-le-climategate_fun?s ubtitle=en
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its about time, damn used car salesmen, fruadsters, propagandaist and sale outs. Harmful to society, helpful to thier bank accounts.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Copenhagen's Hidden Agenda: The Multibillion Trade in Carbon Derivatives
Architect of Credit Default Swaps behind the Development of "Carbon Derivatives"

by Washington's Blog
© Copyright Washington's Blog, Washington's Blog, 2009

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16449

As I have previously shown, speculative derivatives (especially credit default swaps) are a primary cause of the economic crisis.

And I have pointed out that (1) the giant banks will make a killing on carbon trading, (2) while the leading scientist crusading against global warming says it won't work, and (3) there is a very high probability of massive fraud and insider trading in the carbon trading markets.

Now, Bloomberg notes that the carbon trading scheme will be centered around derivatives:


The banks are preparing to do with carbon what they’ve done before: design and market derivatives contracts that will help client companies hedge their price risk over the long term. They’re also ready to sell carbon-related financial products to outside investors.

[Blythe] Masters says banks must be allowed to lead the way if a mandatory carbon-trading system is going to help save the planet at the lowest possible cost. And derivatives related to carbon must be part of the mix, she says. Derivatives are securities whose value is derived from the value of an underlying commodity -- in this case, CO2 and other greenhouse gases...




Who is Blythe Masters?

She is the JP Morgan employee who invented credit default swaps, and is now heading JPM's carbon trading efforts. As Bloomberg notes (this and all remaining quotes are from the above-linked Bloomberg article):

Masters, 40, oversees the New York bank’s environmental businesses as the firm’s global head of commodities...

As a young London banker in the early 1990s, Masters was part of JPMorgan’s team developing ideas for transferring risk to third parties. She went on to manage credit risk for JPMorgan’s investment bank.

Among the credit derivatives that grew from the bank’s early efforts was the credit-default swap.

Some in congress are fighting against carbon derivatives:


“People are going to be cutting up carbon futures, and we’ll be in trouble,” says Maria Cantwell, a Democratic senator from Washington state. “You can’t stay ahead of the next tool they’re going to create.”

Cantwell, 51, proposed in November that U.S. state governments be given the right to ban unregulated financial products. “The derivatives market has done so much damage to our economy and is nothing more than a very-high-stakes casino -- except that casinos have to abide by regulations,” she wrote in a press release...


However, Congress may cave in to industry pressure to let carbon derivatives trade over-the-counter:

The House cap-and-trade bill bans OTC derivatives, requiring that all carbon trading be done on exchanges...The bankers say such a ban would be a mistake...The banks and companies may get their way on carbon derivatives in separate legislation now being worked out in Congress...

Financial experts are also opposed to cap and trade:

Even George Soros, the billionaire hedge fund operator, says money managers would find ways to manipulate cap-and-trade markets. “The system can be gamed,” Soros, 79, remarked at a London School of Economics seminar in July. “That’s why financial types like me like it -- because there are financial opportunities”...

Hedge fund manager Michael Masters, founder of Masters Capital Management LLC, based in St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands [and unrelated to Blythe Masters] says speculators will end up controlling U.S. carbon prices, and their participation could trigger the same type of boom-and-bust cycles that have buffeted other commodities...

The hedge fund manager says that banks will attempt to inflate the carbon market by recruiting investors from hedge funds and pension funds.

“Wall Street is going to sell it as an investment product to people that have nothing to do with carbon,” he says. “Then suddenly investment managers are dominating the asset class, and nothing is related to actual supply and demand. We have seen this movie before.”

Indeed, as I have previously pointed out, many environmentalists are opposed to cap and trade as well. For example:


Michelle Chan, a senior policy analyst in San Francisco for Friends of the Earth, isn’t convinced.

“Should we really create a new $2 trillion market when we haven’t yet finished the job of revamping and testing new financial regulation?” she asks. Chan says that, given their recent history, the banks’ ability to turn climate change into a new commodities market should be curbed...

“What we have just been woken up to in the credit crisis -- to a jarring and shocking degree -- is what happens in the real world,” she says...

Friends of the Earth’s Chan is working hard to prevent the banks from adding carbon to their repertoire. She titled a March FOE report “Subprime Carbon?” In testimony on Capitol Hill, she warned, “Wall Street won’t just be brokering in plain carbon derivatives -- they’ll get creative.”


Yes, they'll get "creative", and we have seen this movie before ...an inadequately-regulated carbon derivatives boom will destabilize the economy and lead to another crash.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good post NepiPemi. The very rub of the thing. Here's a kind of feel good vid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKrw6ih8Gto&feature=player_embedded

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like Bama would be signing an executive order rather than a treaty (which would have to go through the Senate)... at worst.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, If he can get a treaty signed, that would be a foot in the door for a Central Authority. (Another baby step toward The New World Order) I think it's a hoax because Big Oil will never let low carbon happen. Just smoke and dance to keep folks complacent...." you can see we're trying to do something" or " We tried". And tax everybody while they're at it. There are too many dead inventors to think otherwise.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first comprehensive--and comprehensible--investigation of the "Climategate" affair has finally appeared in the traditional media.

David Rose, correspondent for The Daily Mail (London), published this article detailing the most sensational historical insights from the CRU Archive, placing them into historical context, and distinguishing between radical and moderate voices in what is obviously a movement among climatologists to promote the notion of anthropogenic global warming (AGW). The Mail also touched on the controversial allegation that the Russian FSB had somehow built the archive from simpler materials that they stole from the outside. The Mail article was mentioned at once on The Air Vent and Climate Audit, the site run by skeptic Steve McIntyre.

Among the points that the Mail article makes: The UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was determined to stand by a claim that the period from 1990 to the present was the warmest in 1300 years. At least two members of the inner circle (among them Keith Briffa, the assistant director of the East Anglia Climatic Research Unit, or CRU), expressed doubts, but the rest of the circle ruthlessly suppressed them, because any doubt would "dilute the message" and lend credence to a skepticism that, the circle felt, they must defeat at all costs. Concerning this, Roger Pielke, Sr., of the University of Colorado, said:

These emails open up the possibility that big scientific questions we’ve regarded as settled may need another look. They reveal that some of these scientists saw themselves not as neutral investigators but as warriors engaged in battle with the so-called sceptics. They have lost a lot of credibility and as far as their being leading spokespeople on this issue of huge public importance, there is no going back.

The blending of proxy data and real data in the same series--the key fact in the oft-quoted "hide the decline" e-mail by Phil Jones, then Director of CRU--was a serious misuse of the data. A modern observer condemned it in the strongest possible terms for a scientist.

Any scientist ought to know that you just can’t mix and match proxy and actual data. They’re apples and oranges. Yet that’s exactly what he did.

The Mail also touched on the truncation of the tree-ring series from Tim Osborne at 1960--and showed that the continuation of that series clearly showed a steep decline that bottomed out in 1978. (Previously, this Examiner compared that series to the whole of the Hockey Stick graph and pointed out that 1978 was in fact a very cold winter indeed, something that no one would suspect from the official graph alone, had he not lived through that winter.)

The inner circle also was determined to make light of the Medieval Warm Period, or even suggest that it never existed. The reason: the globe was even warmer during that period than it was in the 1960s, at a time when even the technological achievements of the Roman Empire had been forgotten, and industrialization would not take place for another seven hundred years.

Furthermore, the Mail touched on what it called the "strongarm tactics" used against journalists and scientific colleagues not in sympathy with the AGW premise. The Mail suggested that such tactics might not work so readily today, considering the revelations.

Concerning the possible Russian connection, the Mail had previously speculated that the Russian FSB (formerly the KGB, but with its First Chief Directorate spun off) had assembled the archive themselves from stolen materials, and made much of the status of Tomsk, the Siberian city that is the host city of the ISP (Internet Service Provider) where the archive was initially released. Tomsk is a formerly closed city, but does not appear to be closed today. Moreover, at least one commenter to Climate Audit has pointed out that the tomcity.ru ISP servers were incorrectly configured, and that the server that originally hosted the archive was an anonymous FTP (File Transfer Protocol) server to which literally anyone could have access without a password.

According to the Mail, the Russian government has made a veiled threat to disclose certain details, that they claim could be embarrassing to some person or persons unknown outside of Russia, if allegations of direct Russian involvement in stealing the archive do not cease.Daily Mail does first comprehensive investigation of Climategate
December 13, 8:21 AMEssex County Conservative ExaminerTerry Hurlbut

http://www.examiner.com/x-28973-Essex-County-Conservative-Examiner~y20 09m12d13-Daily-Mail-does-first-comprehensive-investigation-of-Climateg ate

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