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harvey Member

Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 509 Location: Mediterranea
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:12 am Post subject: Bulb switch |
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I was wondering if anyone had a take on this. A friend who is an engineer advised me to keep the traditionnal bulbs, given the negative health effects of the new ones - higher electromagnetic emission I believe.
Ten days left to buy traditional lightbulbs: EU ban means only low-energy ones will be on sale
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1208228/Ten-days-left-b uy-frosted-lightbulbs-EU-ban-means-low-energy-ones-sale.html#ixzz0OxqY P2Ip
Traditional lightbulbs will disappear from our shops in just ten days.
All conventional pearl, incandescent lightbulbs are being banned by the European Union to slash energy bills and carbon dioxide emissions.
The move covers every type of frosted traditional bulb, from the 60 watt pearl bulbs used in table lamps to more specialised opaque 25 and 40 watt bulbs shaped like golf balls and candles.
Clear and frosted 100 watt lightbulbs will also not be on sale from September 1.
The measure, introduced with little fanfare, aims to force consumers to fit energy-saving lights.
The Department for Environment said a typical home will save at least £37 a year on electricity bills by fitting low-energy fluorescent and halogen bulbs.
Ministers said the move will also slash national carbon emissions by five million tons a year.
But independent retailers and critics believe the change has been rushed and badly advertised. They also claim that many of the low-energy alternatives are ugly, expensive and produce unpleasant light.
In January, leading retailers announced a voluntary ban on the sale of 100 watt lightbulbs, triggering stockpiling and panic buying. However, independent stories have continued selling them.
Elsewhere, Germans, Austrians and Hungarians are hoarding the energy-hungry bulbs. Sales of incandescent light bulbs have risen by 34 per cent year-on-year in Germany in the first six months of 2009, German consumer research group GfK found.
A low-energy bulb
'Ugly': Many critics believe low-energy bulbs are expensive and produce an unpleasant light
Under the European Directive, manufacturers in Europe will not be able to sell the banned bulbs to retailers. It will also be illegal to import energy-guzzling bulbs from outside the EU.
Independent retailer James Shortridge, owner of the Ryness chain, said customers were stockpiling frosted lightbulbs and 100 watt bulbs to beat the ban. He said: 'If you are sensitive to light, you will notice the difference.
'People aren't aware that the 100 watt and 60 watt pearl bulbs are going - it's a huge change.'
After the ban, householders will have to buy one of two low-energy alternatives. The most economical to run are CFLs - compact fluorescent lights. They cost around £3 each, use a fifth of the energy of a conventional incandescent bulb and can fit every type of socket.
Dimmable CFLs that work in dimmer switches are available, but cost more than £15 each. In theory, they should last six or seven years.
Critics said the light of many CFLs is inferior, some describing them as sickly, harsh or green. They can also take a minute to reach full brightness.
Manufacturers have also created low-energy halogen bulbs which look like traditional bulbs.
These work with dimmer switches, have a warmer light but save just 30 per cent of energy. These are not available as frosted bulbs and last only a couple of years.
Traditional bulbs are being phased out gradually to allow manufactures to adapt. Europe plans to phase out 60 watt clear lights from September 2011.
A Government spokesman said: 'There are many myths around low-energy bulbs. People don't always realise they have improved beyond recognition
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1208228/Ten-days-left-b uy-frosted-lightbulbs-EU-ban-means-low-energy-ones-sale.html#ixzz0OxqO d5RE |
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harvey Member

Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 509 Location: Mediterranea
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:27 am Post subject: |
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just found this video, and picked up this comment
Dirty Electricity - Part 1 - Rays of Rash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CVLa_tRslY
The so Called Energy saving bulbs release whats called “Dirty Energy” which is very dangerous to you. The frequency they release is horrible for your body and your mind. All light comes in waves of frequency. “low energy” light bulbs make a high frequency noise. Turn on an AM radio and place it near one of them and the radio will buzz like crazy. Put it near an old style incandescent lamp and you will hear nothing. |
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<anox}ion Member

Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 1210 Location: The Crystal Palace
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Look out for the bulb smugglers! Seriously, I have made two em shields out of aluminum flashing, I just cut them to size and wrapped them around a broom handle to get the roundness, I then put them over the ends of a fluorescent bulb. I haven't done any experiments with plant growth yet, but it seems to help. It probably would help if they were grounded.
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harvey Member

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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:56 am Post subject: |
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I'm stocking up  |
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harvey Member

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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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I spoke to an engineer about this a couple days ago, who confirms it is best to be at least one meter away from these bulbs, and that when the new types of bulbs break, they release mercury, which as we know is quite toxic. |
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<anox}ion Member

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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:25 am Post subject: |
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I have noticed, that when the power goes out for a few days, say due to a snowstorm, we use kerosene lamps. But it is so peaceful, I guess due to the fact that all the 60 hertz power supply is gone.
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Lesenthe Member

Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 137 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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They're doing a more gradual phase-out here in Australia, too, and the current affairs programmes (as much as I generally despise them) have run exposes on the negative effects of the new low-energy bulbs. People with sensitive skin have broken out in terrible rashes as a result, and they're getting worried that they won't be able to find an alternative light source that won't cause illness.
Why can't they ever do conclusive testing on things like this before making decisions that affect everybody? It seems to me that the governments of the world should follow the Evil Overlord List, or at least Rule 12:
| Quote: | | One of my advisors will be an average five-year-old child. Any flaws in my plan that he is able to spot will be corrected before implementation. |
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